A Quick Summary on the Ancestors of Donald James
of Dauphin, MB and Red Lake, ON
research done via the internet during 2008)
Don Veal is the husband of my wife’s sister Olive, and
as a result my brother-in-law by marriage. He and Olive were married in Red
Lake, ON in 1958 and I have known him since 1961. Over the years I have come to
know his mother, three sisters and their husbands, and a number of nieces and
nephews. This project started as a result of my initiative to demonstrate to Don
how effective the Internet was becoming as a platform from which to do
genealogical research; as those involved in that process will understand, once
started the project simply had to be pursued through to a conclusion.
Perhaps the greatest surprise in the process was
discovering and being able to detail Don’s French Canadian roots. Via his French
Canadian maternal grandmother Elizabeth Longeway he has family ties back to a
Quebec City marriage in 1668 between Jean, a 32 year old French soldier, and
Marie, an 18 year old from France, a “Girl of the King? who, along with some 770
other young French women, were specifically shipped to the Colony as prospective
wives for its overabundance of single men. Don is a representative of the 10th
generation of that family in Canada.
The second surprise in the project was discovering a
connection out on the Canadian prairies to my hometown of Bear River, NS. Don’s
mother’s oldest sister had married a Frederick Chute in Dauphin in 1914. I had
spent my teenage years in a family home on Bear River’s ‘Chute Road'. When I saw
the reference to Frederick I made the offhand remark to myself that he was
probably from Bear River and then promptly forgot about him. The coincidence was
remembered a week or so later and I decided to see if any connectivity between
Frederick Chute and Bear River’s Chute road could be established. Within a half
hour I had traced Frederick back to Southern Ontario, but more importantly his
grandfather Samuel back to Bear River.
Possibilities in England Pre-1881:
The trail of relatives of Donald James Veal of Dauphin,
MB and, for most of the last part of the 20th century, Red Lake, ON can be
traced over time with some assurance to the England census of 1881 and the
family of James and Elizabeth Veal of St Clement Danes, London. The record prior
to that census, with one exception, is somewhat tenuous.
The exception is the record of marriage of the couple
listed in the England & Wales Marriage Index: 1837-1983 wherein the marriages of
one James Veall and one Elizabeth Mary Courtenay were registered in the Holborn
District of London, Middlesex, in the 2nd quarter (Apr-May-Jun) of 1871. This
index does not record actual partners but the coincidence of these two
registrations here (out of a total of four for the quarter) makes it a most
likely partnering. The Courtenay last name of Elizabeth rationalizes the use of
the same name as the given name of one son and one grandson.
The 1881 census also gives James birthplace as
Northamptonshire, a county situated about 80 miles north-northwest of London.
However, no readily suitable candidates with this birth place have emanated from
the 1871 to 1851 census, nor have any appeared via the England & Wales Birth
There is a birth record for Elizabeth Mary Courtenay for
West London in the 2nd quarter (Apr-May-June) of 1841 which could well represent
the eventual wife of James Veall of 1881. There are a number of possible
candidates for a London-based Elizabeth Courtney in the 1871, 1861, and 1851
census but there is as yet no clear way to distinguish the desired individual.
Detail from the 1881
The James Veal family made its first definitive
appearance in the 1881 census where James (Veall), a smith’s laborer, is listed
as 32 (b c1849) and reported to have been born in Northamptonshire, England.
James was married to Elizabeth (likely Courtenay) whose age is listed as 36 (b
c1845) and whose birthplace was listed as the “City of London".
Children in the family at the time of the 1881 census
included Elizabeth A (or B?), 9 (b c1872), born in Bermondsey, Middlesex,
England; Charles F, 6 (b c1875), born in Bermondsey, Middlesex, England; Alice
M, 4 (b c1877), born in Bermondsey, Middlesex, England; Courtney, 12 months, (b
1880), born in St. Mary’s, Middlesex, England.
There are two potential records in the Birth Index:
1837-1983 for daughter Elizabeth Veall’s ’s birth: i) Elizabeth Veal registered
in the 2nd quarter (Apr-May-Jun) of 1870 in Bethnal Green District, Greater
London, Middlesex or ii) Elizabeth Ann Veal registered in the District of
Kingston, Middlesex/Surrey in the 3rd quarter (Jul-Aug-Sept) of 1871. The birth
year would suggest the latter to be the more likely candidate.
There are two potential records in the Birth Index:
1837-1983 for Charles F[rederick] Veall: i) Frederick Charles Veale registered
in Mile End Old Town District in London, Middlesex in 1873, or, more likely, ii)
Frederick Charles Veall, registered in the 1st quarter of 1875 (Jan-Feb-Mar) in
the Strand District of London, Middlesex County.
Alice Maud Veall’s birth was registered in the District
of St. Giles in London in Middlesex County in the first quarter (Jan-Feb-Mar) of
Courtney Veall’s birth was recorded in the Birth Index:
1838-1983 in the 2nd quarter (Apr-May-Jun) of 1879 in St. Giles District of
London, Middlesex County.
At the time of the census (April 3, 1881) the family was
living at 2 Windsor Court, in the civil parish of St. Clements Danes, in London,
Detail from the 1891
In 1891 at the time of the census (April 5) the Veal
family was living St Olave Southwark , in the civil parish of Rotherhithe, in
London. At this time James occupation was listed as “shop general dealer?
James age was given as 48 (b c1843); Elizabeth’s as 45
(b c1846); Fred[erick], (and the Charles F of 1881), a 21 year old general
laborer (b c1870); Alice Maud as 17 (b c1874); and Courtenay as 12, (b c 1879)
and at school; and newcomer to the family, daughter Posey, is listed as 4 (b c1887). The birthplace of all the family members is given simply as London.
Daughter Elizabeth was no longer recorded as living with
the family; there is no clear record of her death in the Death Index: 1837-1983.
It is likely she was removed from the family by marriage, of which the Marriage
Index: 1837-1983 would offer several reasonable but non-definitive candidates.
The Courtenay Veal -
Mary Ann Haley Marriage:
Son Courtenay Veal, 17, married Mary Ann Haley, 16, in
London’s St. Saviour Southwark District, Surrey, in the 4th quarter
(Oct-Nov-Dec) of 1896.
In 1891 Mary Ann Haley was listed as an 11 year old (b
c1880), born ?, Barkley Town, living with her parents Daniel (40), a dock
laborer, born Bermondsey, London, and Mary Ann (37), born Gernsey, Channel
Islands, and brothers Patrick (9) and Daniel (6) (b c1885), both born Glonwatch,
in Bermondsey District in London.
Detail from the 1901
By 1901 the family appears to have collapsed as a single
unit. There is a London-born Elizabeth Veal, 56, (b c 1845), living London in
St. Saviour Southwark in the civil parish of Newington and working as a
machinist in an umbrella factory. Listed with her is one Grace Veal, 14, (b
c1887) whose birthplace is given as Southwark. It is likely that this is mother
Elizabeth and daughter “Posey” of 1891. James has either died in the
intervening decade or has left the family. A suitable candidate for James has
not yet emerged from the England & Wales Death Index: 1837-1983 over the 40 year
Mother Elizabeth Veal died at 70 in Camberwell in March
of 1915. In June of 1912 Grace Veal married George E Harman in Southwark.
Alice Maud appears to have married in 1896 in St.
Saviour Southwark one Charles Maxworthy, general laborer, and is listed in the
1901 census as a 25 year old (b c1876) mother of 3 year old Charles, 2 year old
Louisa, and 10 month old Henri and living Greenwich, London.
There are two candidates in the 1901 census for
Frederick Charles Veal: i) Frederick Veale, 29 (b c1872 in London), living Mile
End Old Town District in London, a brewer’s traveler, married to 31 year old Ada
(Harrod) Veal (born Lybec, Wadhurst) married in the 1st quarter of 1898
(Jan-Feb-Mar) in Lewisham, Greater London, Kent County, with a three year old
daughter Ada (born London Mile End); and less likely ii) Frederick William
Veal, 30, (b c1871 in Bath Green, London), living in the Hackney District London
(married in 1892 in Hackney) to 27 year old Sarah (Seager) Veal (born Hackney,
London) with a 3 year old daughter Sarah (born Hackney London).
A viable candidate for Courtney Veal has not yet been
located in the 1901 census.
Courtney Veal senior is reported to have been a boxer
(bantamweight) in his youth in London. Grandson Don Veal retains a photograph of
Courtney Senior in boxing trunks and in a boxing pose. To date the Internet has
not given up any secrets it may contain on Courtney’s boxing career.
Information from the
England & Wales Birth Index: 1837-1983:
The England & Wales Birth Index: 1837-1983 provides for
the registration of the birth of one Courtenay Veal [Junior] in Camberwell, in
London, Surrey, in the first quarter (Jan-Feb-Mar) of 1901. There is no surety
that these two records are of the same individual even though the name of
Courtney Veal appears to be exceedingly rare in London records.
The same birth index provides for two candidates for the
birth of James Veal, son of Courtney Senior: i) James Veal whose birth was
registered in the 4th quarter (Oct-Nov-Dec) of 1902 in Poplar District Greater
London, Middlesex, the most likely candidate, and ii) Edward James Veal, whose
birth was registered in Hackney, Greater London, Middlesex, in the 2nd quarter
(Apr-May-June) of 1904.
That same birth index provides for the registration of
the birth of one Frederick Thomas Veal in the 3rd quarter (July-Aug-Sep) of 1895
in the District of St George in the East in London, Middlesex.
Detail from the 1911
Census of Canada:
The Courtenay Veal family arrived in Canada at Montreal
on the Southwark out of Liverpool on June 23, 1907. The ship’s passenger lists
show the immigrating family to consist of Courtenay, 30, Mary 29, Courteney 6,
James 4, and Frederick 1. Courtenay’s stated profession was ‘tin plate tinker’.
In the 1911 census of Canada we find Courtney Veal’s
family living in Lovering Park, in Dauphin, Manitoba. However, for some unknown
reason the family is listed under the surname Elbert (could it be that
Courtney’s middle name was Albert and the census taker simply missed the shorter
surname Veal? This approach does not appear to work when traced back to 1901 England
In 1911 the Veal family consisted of Courtney, 32 (b
April 1879); Mary Ann, 34 (b March 1877); Courtney, 10 (b April 1900); James, 8
(b Nov 1902); Fredrick, 5 (b March 1906); all born England; and Bessie, 3 (b
June 1907); and Maud, 5 months (b Jan 1911); the latter two born Manitoba.
Courtney Sr. was a “wash-out man” at the CNR roundhouse;
the Veal family immigrated to Canada in 1907; they followed the Anglican
Expeditionary Force Records and Saskatchewan:
Courtney Jr. enlisted in the Canadian Expeditionary
Force On March 22, 1916; those records gave his birth date as January 21, 1900.
At that time he was living in Hudson Bay Junction, Saskatchewan and he gave his
occupation as “porter" (ostensibly on the railway). He was unmarried. He gave his
next of kin as Courtney Veal, father, of Hudson Bay Junction, SK. He appears to
have been assigned to the 184th Overseas Battalion via transfer from the 107th
Daniel Haley, brother of Mary Ann (Haley) Veal and uncle
of Courtney Veal Jr. had enlisted in the Canadian Expeditionary Force on March
18, 1916 (3 days earlier) in Winnipeg, MB; those records gave his birth date as
Aug 15, 1885. At that time he gave his address as Hudson Bay Junction, MB, his
birthplace as Bermondsey, England, and his occupation as farmer. He indicated he
was unmarried. He gave his next of kin as Mrs. Mary Ann Veal, sister, of Hudson
Bay Junction. He appears to have been assigned to the 184th Overseas Battalion
and his regimental number was given as 874876.
It appears that Courtney Veal Senior homesteaded a
quarter-section immediate to the community of Hudson Bay Junction. Saskatchewan
homestead records assign the NW part of Section 21, in Township 45, Range 3 to
one Courtney Veal and since Courtney Sr. is known to have been in the area in
1916 it is likely he who applied for the land.
Of interest is the fact that one Daniel Haley also held
a quarter-section (the NE part of Section 28) in the same Township and Range. It
appears he also took up a soldier's grant after WW1 designated the NW part of
Section 32, in Township 43, Range 2. It appears that Daniel Haley applied for a
third quarter section on the 3rd January 1930, which section being the SW
quarter of Section 10 in Township 44, Range 3 west of the second meridian.
Daniel Haley lost a leg in WW1. He apparently eventually
returned to Dauphin from Sask. He is reported to have played a mean banjo. Dan
died in Winnipeg’s Deer Lodge c1950-1952 after a stroke. Vel Bowie remembers
visiting him once when he was in his 60’s c1948.
The Veals of Dauphin,
The Veal family in Dauphin c 1918 consisted of:
The Parents - Courtney Sr. and Mary Anne (Haley) Veal:
Mary Anne (Haley) Veal is reported (in Manitoba Vital Statistics)
as dying (of cancer) in Dauphin at age 45 on Feb 27, 1923. She apparently taught
Irish dancing on stage at one point in her life.
Courtney Sr., described as a boiler maker in a history of the
Hudson Bay Junction area, became disenchanted with the dual life of a railway
employee and a homesteader and abandoned his Saskatchewan homestead and returned
to Dauphin with the family to concentrate on railway employment. This likely
occurred sometime around 1920.
Courtney Sr. played the concertina.
Courtney Sr. died when struck by a train in Dauphin. Apparently
the practice was that the round house workers would often catch a ride for the
two miles back to town on one of the local yard engines. Son Don Veal indicated
that on the particular day he was killed Courtney jumped the yard engine
cowcatcher for the ride back, fell asleep, and tumbled off the cowcatcher and
under the engine. Sister Vel gave the details somewhat differently in that
Courtney, somewhat tired, stepped off the yard engine and into the path of a
passing train on the adjoining track.
The collective children of the Veal family of Dauphin,
MB appear to be as follows:
Courtney b 1901
James b 1902
Frederick b 1906
(Elizabeth) b 1907
Maud b 1911
James McQuigge "Mackie" (T) b 1915
Herbert Kitchener (T) b 1915
Evelyn b 1918
Percy b 1921
o The life of Courtney Veal is summarized in a
separate section below.
o James Veal appears to have spent most of his
adult life in Dauphin where in 1952 he is said to have been running a pool room.
He had apparently been shot in the arm at one point in time. He married Irene
Kaley in Dauphin and had a son Tommy c1938 and a daughter June (Vel says Julie).
June was a twin whose sister Joan was stillborn or died as infant. James died of
heart failure as a 62 year old c1964.
o Fred apparently got into the prospecting
business and is reported to have spent some time in Thunder Bay. Fred was a
marathon walker and supposedly a very good dancer and was known to have entered
dance contests in the 1930’s. He is buried in Dauphin. Vel Bowie noted the death
of a Veal in Winnipeg in early 2008 who was a ballroom dancer and wondered if it
might be one of Fred’s sons about which the family knew nothing.
o Bessie Veal married one ‘Shorty’ Russick, a
Russian, in Flin Flon. Shorty ran a trading post north of Flin Flon at Pelican
Narrows which he serviced via dog sled; apparently he also ran a trapline.
During the 1920s and 1930s Shorty travelled the developing dog sled racing
circuit across North America, winning the Flin Flon "World Championship" at
least twice and the bronze medal at the 1932 Lake Placid Olympics where dog
sledding was entered as a demonstration sport. The couple had two children -
Billy who was eventually employed as a school principle in Winnipeg, and Larry
who died at an early age.
o There is no immediate detail on Maud Veal.
o Courtney’s brother Henry left home early and
apparently took up prospecting, perhaps working NW Ontario in the 1920-1930
period. He eventually ended up in Alberta; nephew Don believes it was Camrose where he died in hospital.
In two letters from his brother James in Herbert Kitchener's military file dated
November 1946 and February 1947 James reported Henry to be resident in the
Provincial Mental Hospital in Ponoka, AB. Nephew Don noted that after Henry died in the 1970-1990
period the Alberta Government Trustee traced down some of the family in the east
and that he received $5000.00 from the estate.
o Vel Bowie reports that Herbert
Kitchener and "Mackie" (James McQuigge) Veal were twin brothers. Mackie was born
on March 25, 1915 in a sleeper on a Canadian Northern railway car while his
mother was on her way from Hudson Bay, SK to the hospital in Dauphin; Herbert
was born a couple hours later in hospital.
Karen Pace found the following on the Internet
in 2016, newspaper unknown: 1915 Mar 25 - Baby Born on Train:
An event occurred on the train from Prince Albert on
Saturday morning last which caused quite a commotion among passengers. Mrs.
Courtney Veal, who took passage at Hudson's Bay Junction for the purpose of
coming to Dauphin to enter the hospital, gave birth to a male child in the
vicinity of Sifton, and some fifteen miles from Dauphin. Mrs. Veal was
occupying a berth in a sleeper at the time. There was only one other woman,
a Mrs. McVoy, on the train at the time, and her services were quickly
requisitioned by Conductor James McQuigge, and everything possible done to
make mother and baby comfortable. A rush telegram was dispatched to Dauphin
for a doctor and nurse. When the train arrived Dr. Bottomley and a nurse
from the hospital with the ambulance, were waiting and the mother and child
taken to the hospital. Forty-five munites after Mrs. Veal entered the
hospital door she gave birth to another boy. Supt. Inwin and the officials
of the Canadian Northern are naturally quite proud of the part of the road
played in this important event, and while they are not willing to admit
they are in favor of adding a maternity department to their already
unexcelled service, they say it might be a possibility in the future. Mr.
Veal, who accompanied his wife to Dauphin, speaks highly of the service
rendered by Conductor McQuigge in the emergency, and as a mark of gratitude
will name one of the babies after him. The two babies are to be named
Herbert Kitchener Veal [and] James McQuigge Veal. At latest accounts the
mother and the babies are doing well.
Mackie Veal is reported to have died at age 3 by drowning on
August 18, 1918 after falling down a well behind the house.
Herbert Veal joined the military and went overseas in 1942 and was
killed in 1945 near the end of the war and is buried in Holland. He apparently
took his grade 9 in Flin Flon while he lived with sister Bessie.
||20 Mar 1915
||Dauphin, Manitoba, Canada
||Flin Flon, Manitoba, Canada
||19 Oct 1945
||Royal Canadian Electrical and Mechanical Engineers
|Next of Kin:
o Evelyn Veal died in Dauphin at age 2 on July 1,
o Percy Veal died from an accidental shooting with
a .22 on October 5, 1929 while he was playing with a friend. He was 8 years of
The Mather Connection:
The 1906 Census of Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta
(July 27) provides for a record for the family of Adam (40) and Elizabeth (35)
Mather and children Louise (13), Mary (12), Phoebe (10), and Dorothy (7), all of
whom are listed as having been born in Quebec, and daughters Bessie (6) and
Josephine (4) who are reported to have been born in Manitoba.
The family was located in the Dauphin District, in
sub-district 14b, described in more detail as Townships 23, 24 in Ranges 17, 18,
19, 20 West.
The above dates would suggest the family probably moved
to Manitoba in 1899-1900.
This family is of interest in that Courtney Veal Junior
eventually married the youngest Mather daughter, Josephine.
The 1901 census shows the family living in the Marquette
District of Manitoba in the Dauphin sub-district. In this file Adam, noted to be
of Scottish ethnic background, is listed as 40 and born August 12, 1860; his
wife is listed as Mary E, of French ethnic background, 34, and born Jan 10,
1867; daughter Louisa, 8, was born on Nov 12, 1892; daughter Ada M, 7, is given
a birth date of May 25, 1893; daughter Margaret P, 5, is listed with a birth
date of March 11, 1896; the birth date of daughter Dotty L. J., 2, is given as
Sept 22, 1898, and daughter Bessy H. I. is shown as born on July 12, 1890 and is
listed as 11 but in reality she was born in Manitoba and was at the time of the
census 11 months old.
In this file Adam is shown as born in Quebec, Mary E and
all the girls but Bessy in Ontario, and Bessy in Manitoba. The family is all
noted to be of the Protestant persuasion. Adam is recorded as a farm laborer.
In 1911 the family was recorded in Section 24, Township
26, Range 20, in the Dauphin District of Manitoba under the transcribed name of
Mathans. (The complete file is poorly transcribed!!) Farmer Adam is listed as a
50 year old, of Scottish extraction, born in August of 1861 in Ontario; wife
Mary Elizabeth is recorded as 43, of French extraction and born January ?; 18
year old daughter Louise is listed as born in Ontario in November 1892; 17 year
old daughter Addie May is listed as born in Ontario in May of 1894; 15 year old
Margaret Fay is listed as Ontario born in March of 1896; 12 year old Dotty ? is
listed as born in Ontario in September of 1899; Bessie Katy Jane was noted to be
10 years old and born in Manitoba in July 1901; and 8 year old Mary Josephine is
listed as having been born in Manitoba in April of ? The family is noted to be
of the Presbyterian persuasion
Manitoba Vital Statistics record the death of a one year
old Florence Gertrude Mather in Dauphin on March 26, 1915 but her presence in the
family, while likely, is uncertain.
Louise Mather married Frederick Chute in Dauphin on
November 12, 1914; Margaret Phoebe Mather married Joseph Villeneuve in Winnipeg
on April 5, 1916; and Bessie Irene Mather married Thomas Bradley in Dauphin on
December 1, 1921.
Addie/Eda “May” Mather married US-born Lovless Ernest
Winters in Dauphin, Manitoba on June 21, 1916. An Ernest Winters, born on Dec 3,
1877, died in Dauphin, MB on Sept 18, 1936. Apparently May subsequently married
Ernest’s brother but the data is not available. May had an illegitimate son
Stanley O Mather prior to her marriage; the son was raised by mother Elizabeth.
Stan served in the military during WWII. He spent most of his adult life in the
Vancouver area where he worked in the transportation industry; he died c2000.
According to Vel Bowie Phoebe and Joe Villeneuve lived
in Thunder Bay at one point but returned to Dauphin to look after sister Dorothy
Veal when mother Elizabeth died. Dorothy was unable to speak yet was hearing
proficient. She apparently did exceptional crochet work prized throughout the
Adam Mather is later recorded as having homesteaded the
NW part of Section 23, in Township 60, Range 17, in the Meadow Lake area to the
northeast of Lloydminster, SK. He apparently lived a pretty sparse life there. A
visit by one of the daughters (Bessie?) reported his house to have had a dirt
Confirming detail on the Saskatchewan homestead parcels
and associated individuals could be obtained via an inquiry to the Saskatchewan
Don Veal indicates that Adam’s wife Elizabeth and
children did not move to Meadow Lake with Adam but moved into Dauphin from
nearby Valley River instead; Elizabeth ran a boarding house in Dauphin. Adam
apparently died in the Meadow Lake area.
Some More Recent
A review of available (limited in time) on-line vital
statistics from the Province of Manitoba provide the following records:
Deaths: (70 years+)
Veal: Evelin, age 2, died 01.07.1920, Dauphin
Veal: James McQuigg, age 3, died
Veal: Percy, age 8, died 05.10.1929,
Veal: Courtney, age 52, died
Veal: John, age 1, died 26.05.1934,
Veal: Mary Anne, age 45, died
Mather: Florence Gertrude, age 1,
died 26.03.1915, Dauphin
Marriages: (80 years+)
Mather: Bessie Irene, to Thomas Bradley, 01.12.1921, Dauphin
Mather: Louise, to Frederick Chute, 12.11.1914, Dauphin
Mather: Margaret Phoebe, to Joseph
Villeneuve, 05.04.1916, Winnipeg
Mather: Eda "May", to Lovless Ernest
Winters, 21.06.1916, Dauphin
Births: (100 years+)
Mather: Bessie Katie, born 14.07.1900,
Mather: Mary Josephine, born 14.04.1902, Dauphin
The Mathers in
A follow-up on the Ontario and Quebec birth locations
for Adam Mather family members as shown in the 1901 census led to a search of
Ontario and Quebec records for more detail.
Adam Mather is shown in the 1891 census as a 27 year old
saw mill laborer boarding with the John Finton (?) family in Kippell area of
north Grey County, Ontario.
A marriage record for Adam Mather and Elizabeth Longeway
in Ontario, Canada Marriages: 1857-1924 indicates that the couple, respectively
28 (b c1863) and 24 (b c1867) years of age, was married in the community of
Mitchell, Perth County, ON, on November 3, 1891. The records list Adam’s
residence as Wiarton, ON, on the Bruce Peninsula and his birthplace as
Valcartier, Quebec. Elizabeth’s place of Birth and residence at the time of
marriage were listed as Logan Township, ON, which is in Perth County.
Adam’s profession is given in the record as
“Engineer”and his religion as Presbyterian; Elizabeth is noted to be a
“Romanist” or Roman Catholic. Adam’s parents are listed as John and Margaret
Mather; Elizabeth’s parents as Mary and Louis Longeway of Logan, ON.
Four of the Mather daughters were born in Ontario as
o Louise Mather, was born on Nov 12, 1892 to Adam
Mather, engineer, and Elizabeth Loungay Mather in Bruce County; the birth was
registered in Wiarton, ON.
o Eda May Mather was born on May 25, 1894 to Adam
Mather, laborer, and Elizabeth Lougways in Bruce County; the birth was
registered in Wiarton.
o Margaret Phoebe Mather was born on May 11, 1896
to Adam Mather, farmer, and Mary Elizabeth Alangway in Muskoka District; the
birth was registered in Huntsville where Adam, a farmer, was resident at the
o Dottie Lucy Mather was born in Muskoka District
on September 22, 1898 to Adam Mather and Mary E Lounguay; the birth was
registered in Muskoka District.
The above information places the family in the Wiarton
area from at least mid-1891 until c1895 when Adam relocated them to the
Huntsville area. Bessie’s birth in Manitoba by mid-1900 signifies that they had
made the move west prior to that time.
Mother Elizabeth’s likely pre-1869 birth does not appear
to be recorded in the Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1909 file.
The Perth County
Elizabeth Mather is listed in the 1881 census as a 16
year old (b c1865) in the household of Quebec-born farmer Louis (43, b c1838)
and Marey (40, b c1841) Longueway in Logan, ON. Also within the family are
sisters Frezin (20, b c1861) and Flevan (19, b c1962), and brothers Louis (12, b
c1869) and Joseph (10, b c1871), and finally sister Margaret L. (7, b c1874).
Louis and Joseph are noted to be in school. The family was of the Roman Catholic
religious persuasion. Margaret’s birth record lists her mother’s last name as Dishau.
Other apparent siblings listed in the Ontario, Canada
Births, 1869-1909 records include Peter (b May25, 1876, d Dec 25, 1880), Annie
(b Apr 3, 1878, d May 7,1878), Thomas John (b Nov 6, 1879, d Jan 3, 1881), and
Kate Louisa (b Sep 3, 1882, d May 15, 1885). Sister Elizabeth was the informant
listed on Kate’s death record. There is an inconsistency with the surname of the
mother on these records which gets recorded respectively as Vassa, Dishon,
Dishon, and Dathaw. Many of these records list the family as living on Lot 16,
concession 14, Logan Tp. (see below).
The 1871 Ontario census index lists as head of household
in Logan Tp., Perth County, ON a Louis Lanngway b Quebec c1938; this is
probably the father of Elizabeth who was the only adult Louis Langway (sp) in
Logan Tp. in 1881.
The 1891 census shows the family as consisting of Louis,
a 53 year old Quebec born farmer, Quebec born wife Mary, 50, and Ontario born
children Elizabeth a 26 year old servant, Louis a 22 year old farmer, Joseph, a
20 year old farmer and Maggie a 17 year old with no stated occupation. The
family is all of the Roman Catholic religious persuasion.
The 1901 census shows the Longeway family as follows:
Family 37 - Louise Longeway, male, head, 63, b Oct 17, 1837; Mary Longeway,
wife, 60, b Oct 8, 1840; Joseph Longeway, head, 30, b Jan 21, 1871; Mary, wife,
19, b May 29, 1881.
Louis and Mary Longeway were listed in the 1911 census
for Logan Township as follows: Family 82 - Louice Longeway, head, 73, b Oct 1837;
Mary Longeway, wife, 70, Oct 1840. Also listed as part of family 82 were the
following: Josewph Longeway, son, 40, b Feb 1871; Mary, wife, 30, b May 1881;
Eissey, daughter, 10, Nov 1901; Josie, daughter, 9, b Dec 1902; Patrick, son, 8,
b Mar 1903; Loretta, daughter, 6, b Dec 1904; Mary, daughter, 5, b Mar 1906;
Ellen, daughter, 3, b Mar 1908; Margaret, daughter, 2, b March 1909; Tressia,
daughter, 8 mo, b Sept 1910.
Elizabeth (Longeway) Mather’s father’s death is recorded
in Logan Tp, Perth County as follows: Louis Longeway, farmer, died Dec 20, 1917,
age 80; residence Lot 16, Concession 14, Logan Tp.; buried Mitchell; father
- Louis Longeway; maiden name of mother - Frezen; died of old age/heart failure;
Informant - Joseph Longeway.
The Bergevin-Langevin-Longeway-Longeuay-Lashway family
website has the following additional detail on Elizabeth’s father Louis: Louis (Longeway)
Bergevin b Oct 22, 1837, Chateauguay, Quebec, d Dec 20, 1917, Kennicott, ON;
Father –Louis (Longeway) Bergevin, mother-Euphrosine Giroux; married Mary
Desjeans on June 3, 1860 in Stratford, St Joseph, ON.
The same website has the following information on
Elizabeth’s mother Mary: Mary Desjeans, b Oct 8, 1840, Mercier, Quebec, d Mar
27, 1928, Kennicott ON; father Louis Desgens dit Mosseau, mother Flavie Beaudin.
The same website sets up the offspring of Louis and Mary
o Longeway, Frezen Cecilia, m Joseph Dishaw, Oct
3, 1881, Kinkora, St.- Patrick’s, ON; Frezen b Feb 13, 1861 in Logan Tp., d July
19, 1945 in Pinconning, MI
o Longeway, Flaviana (Phoebe), m James J Goka,
Sept 24, 1884, Gagetown St. Agatha, MI; Flaviana b Apr 3, 1862, Logan Tp., d
June 18, 1945, Gagetown, MI
o Longeway, Mary b June 14, 1863, d 1863, both
Logan Tp., Perth Co. ON
o Longeway, Elizabeth, m Adam Mather; Elizabeth b
Jan 10, 1865, Logan Tp., Perth Co., ON; d 1928-1952, Dauphin, MB
o Longeway, Rosalie b Mar 2, 1867, d c1867, both
Logan Tp., Perth Co.
o Longeway, Louis L, m Mary F. McCarthy, c 1898;
Louis b Oct 20, 1868, Logan Tp., Perth Co., ON
o Longeway, Joseph Ferdinand, m Mary J Decoursey,
June 1, 1899, Logan Tp. Perth Co., ON; Joseph b Jan 27. 1871, Kennicott, ON, d
Oct 13, 1952, Kennicott, ON
o Longeway, Margaret Leonice, m Dennis Frances
Costello, June 14, 1898, St. Bridget’s Catholic Church, Perth Co., ON; b Mar 12,
1874, Logan Tp., Perth Co., ON, d Sept 26, 1939, Detroit, MI
There is a Perth County record of a marriage of Logan
residents Joseph Deshaw (24) and Frezen C Langevin, 20, in October of 1881.
Given the roots of the name Longeway (see below) it is probable that in reality
Frezen Langevin is Frezen Longeway, daughter of Louis and sister of Elizabeth,
noted in the 1881 census; the age is correct and Frezen is a very rare first
name, even in Quebec.
There is a record in the Canadian County Atlas Digital
Project of one L. Longway occupying in 1879 two lots in Logan Tp., Perth Co. -
Lot 16, Concession XIV of 25 acres and an adjacent 13 acre lot adjoining at the
southwest corner described as Lot 17, Concession XIII. The first lot is
consistent with the location of the family described in a number of the above
The North American surname Longeway, as well as Longeuay,
Langevin, Lashway, Bergevin, and Bregevin are all believed to be descended from
a French Soldier (Jean Bergevin) who arrived in Quebec from France in 1665. The
Longeway name from there spread into Ontario and US Border States. There was a
notable population of Longeways in Massachusetts and Vermont stretching west
through into Michigan in 1880. Of interest, most of the actual Longeways in
Quebec found in the Drouin Collection were located in the Eastern Townships and
followed the Protestant faith.
Jean Bergevin appears to have been born in Angers,
Anjou, France on March 11, 1635. He arrived in New France on August 17, 1665 at
age 30 as a soldier in the Grandfontaine Company of the Carignan-Salliers
Regiment, one of about 1200 members of this regiment who arrived in the late
summer of 1665 and spent the next year or so engaged in protecting the forts in
the Richelieu Valley from the Iroquois. At the end of his military service he
elected to remain in New France.
On November 26, 1668 Jean Bergevin (32) married one
Marie Piton (Pitau) (18) born in Paris. Marie was one of some 770 women
recruited in France in the period 1663-1673, under a plan put in place by King
Louis XIV, with the promise of a significant dowry, and who arrived in Quebec
designed to become the wives of the many single men already in that colony. This
group of women has come to be known collectively as “Les Filles du Roi” or “The
Girls of the King” and have been described as the "Mothers of French Canada” due
to the extensive ancestral lines they initiated.
After marriage the couple settled in Beauport, Quebec,
just a few kilometers downstream from Quebec City, where they had 12 offspring,
six of whom managed to survive into adulthood.
Jean Bergevin and Marie Piton are Don Veal’s
grandparents eight times removed, making Don a representative of the 10th
generation of that family in Canada.
The Mathers in Quebec:
The Drouin Collection records a number of Mathers of
Scottish extraction involved during the 1800s with the St. Andrews Presbyterian
Church in Quebec City, including the citizens from the Valcartier area of Quebec
to the north-northwest. There was a Church of Scotland in Valcartier with a
number of associated Mathers. There were Mathers in Quebec City also associated
with the Anglican Quebec Garrison Church, the Quebec Anglican Cathedral Holy
Trinity, and the Québec City Wesleyan Methodist Church, and a number of Catholic
churches. It has been noted that some individuals from Valcartier married at St.
Andrews in Quebec City were subsequently buried via the Church of Scotland in
The Drouin Collection records the birth of a male, one
Margaret Adam Mather, on August 19, 1861via the St. Andrews Presbyterian Church
to John Mather, farmer, and Margaret Mather of Stoneham, Quebec, located north
of Quebec City and not far from Valcartier.
The one available marriage record from the area
involving a John Mather is a marriage to one Elizabeth Handlen, both of Quebec
City, at St. Andrews Presbyterian Church on Dec 3, 1821. The likelihood is that
this is not the marriage of Adam Mather’s parents.
Veal/Josephine Mather Family of Dauphin, MB:
Family oral history indicates that Courtney Veal
Junior’s involvement with the army in 1916 was short lived as his mother
notified the authorities that he was under age (15/16 instead of the required
17) and he was summarily shipped back to Hudson Bay Junction.
Courtney Jr. was apparently a good singer. According to
Vel her mother heard him singing on CBC radio from Saskatoon one night - the
song was Alice Blue Gown, one of his favorites - and identified him; she
noted that he had to be drunk to sing in front of an audience.
It was inevitable that Courtney Jr., upon moving back to
small town Dauphin, would run into Josephine Mather, whose mother had refused to
pick up the family and follow husband and father Adam to Meadow Lake, SK. It
appears that the couple married in the early 1920’s. The resulting family
consisted of Elmer “Bud”, Evelyn, Phoebe, Lloyd, Velma, and Don.
Elmer “Bud" Veal was posted overseas during WW2 and
returned with a medical condition and spent the period from c 1944 to 1951 in
the Veterans hospital in London, ON. Released from the hospital Elmer made his
way to Sudbury where he worked for INCO for several years. He apparently married
in Sudbury in 1952 to a French Canadian Margaret Viau. The couple had one son
Kenny, born in Sudbury, married to Cathy ? with an adopted son
Jason; Kenny died in 2015. Elmer eventually returned to the Veterans hospital in London where he
died in 1991. His death notice was in the Legion’s Last Post column in the
March/April 1998 issue which reported his location as Kincardine, ON. Elmer’s
wife Margaret died in Sudbury in 2007.
VEAL, Margaret (Viau) - In loving memory of Margaret
(Viau) Veal, 81 years, passed away Friday, October 12th, 2007 at Extendicare
Falconbridge. Beloved wife of Elmer “Bud“ Veal predeceased 1991. Loving
mother of Kenneth (wife Kathleen) of Chelmsford. Cherished grandmother of
Jason of North Bay and great-grandchild Isabel. Predeceased by her parents
George and Mary Viau, sisters Evelyn and Theresa and brothers George and
Albert. Private Family Visitation will be held at the Lougheed Funeral Home, 252 Regent St., Sudbury, Saturday, October 13th, 2007. Cremation
at the Park Lawn Crematorium.
In Loving Memory of Kenneth George Veal 62 Years who
passed away at Health Sciences North on December 3rd, 2015. Beloved husband
for over 35 years of Kathleen Veal (nee Warren). Loving father of Jason
Veal. Treasured grandfather of Izabelle and Tanner (predeceased). Dear son
of Elmer and Margaret Veal (both predeceased). Will be deeply missed by his
canine companion Princess. Kenneth will be sadly missed by many cousins and
friends. Kenneth loved fishing, camping, gardening, photography and spending
time on the computer. He enjoyed spending time on the patio, barbecuing and
ski-dooing. Funeral Visitation in the Lougheed Funeral Home 252 Regent
Street at Hazel Street, Sudbury Friday, December 18th, 2015 from 2-4 only.
Cremation at the Park Lawn Crematorium. Donations to the Sudbury SPCA would
Evelyn was born in Dauphin in 1923 some 11 months after Elmer.
She early left home for Toronto following airman Lynn Jackson, who had been
training in the Dauphin area, where she awaited his return from overseas. The
couple adopted a son David in the 1950’s who also served with and eventually
retired from the RCAF and continued to live in the Ottawa area. They eventually
divorced after 28 years of marriage. Evelyn subsequently went through a second
short term marriage, and then married for the third time one Roy Fleming. That
couple eventually left the city of Toronto, where Evelyn had been employed by
Imperial Oil, for Halliburton where the marriage dissolved. In 2008 Evelyn was
living in the Ottawa area; by 2012 she and son
David were living in Mexico. Evelyn passed away in Mexico in mid-2016; her ashes
were interred next to her mother in Riverview Cemetery, Thunder Bay in early
Phoebe was born two years after Evelyn. Phoebe married
Hillier Reich who had been born in Saskatchewan and who had moved to Dauphin
with his blacksmith father. Hillier served in the army during WW2. The couple
later moved to Thunder Bay, ON where they raised children Doug and Judy in that
o At one point early in life Phoebe lived with her
aunt Phoebe (Mather) Villeneuve who had lost a child at an early age. The aunt
developed a strong attraction to the little girl and desired to adopt her but
that did not occur.
o At one point young
Phoebe could not understand why her Grandfather Adam would not give her a bit of
his ‘chocolate bar' while they were in transit somewhere on a wagon. After they
arrived home she sneaked a bite of Grandpa's ‘bar' from his room. The result was
that on that day she swore off chewing tobacco forever.
REICH- Mrs. Phoebe Reich age 85 years, a resident of
Thunder Bay passed away on Monday, August 2nd, 2010 at the T.B.R.H.S.C.
Phoebe was born in Dauphin, Manitoba on January 25, 1925. In 1946 she met
her future husband Hilbert Reich and they were married on March 8th, 1947.
Later that year they moved to Port Arthur to start their new life together.
Phoebe worked at Franci's Drugstore for three years upon her arrival, she
later worked for Helpers Furiers for eleven years and the Timothy Eaton Co.
until her retirement. She was a dedicated Blue Jays fan and enjoyed spending
time with her family. Phoebe will be lovingly remembered and dearly missed
by her husband Hilbert, son Douglas (Valerie), daughter Judy, grandchildren
Hailey and Courtney, sisters: Evelyn Fleming and Velma (Art) Bowie, and
brother Don Veal (Olive) as well as by her nieces, nephews and other
relatives. She was predeceased by her brothers Elmer Veal and Lloyd Veal.
Funeral services will be held on Saturday, August 7, 2010 at 1:00 pm in the
Chapel of the Sargent & Son Funeral Home, 21 N. Court Street with Rev. Ross
Tompkins presiding. A private interment will be held at a later date.
Memorial donations to the Northern Cancer Fund would be appreciated. On-line
condolences may be made at www.sargentandson.com.
Lloyd was born in 1927 and he moved to Thunder Bay, ON at
age 14 with the idea of joining the Navy. He apparently signed on but he was not
shipped out due to being underage and the war essentially came to an end before
he became 17 and available for active duty. Lloyd married Audrey and raised
seven children in Thunder Bay:Lorraine (Kenny Hakala), Jimmie (Lorna
Porter) d Sept 25/07, Marjie (Eddie Backen), Gloria (Ed Myllyaho), Karen (Donny
Korpela), Gary (Barbra Harrison) d Apr 17, 2016, age 58, and Elaine (Donnie Koski).
Veal - Mr. James "Jim" Veal Sr. , age 54 years, a resident
of Kakabeka Falls passed away peacefully at his home on Monday, September
25, 2007. Jim was born in Port Arthur and had resided in Stanley for the
last 29 years. A member of the Local #397 Sheet Metal Workers, Jim's
profession provided him the opportunity to work in many different places
across Canada. He enjoyed the travel and new challenges that these jobs
brought with them and he especially cherished the many long lasting
friendships that developed as a result. Jim enjoyed the water, whether it be
the time spent at Silver Lake or sailing on Lake Superior. Jim was happiest
spending time with his family and friends, and truly loved his role as a
grandfather a.k.a. "Boogaloo" to his granddaughter Kaylea and was looking
forward to the birth of his new grandson in November. He will be lovingly
remembered and dearly missed by his wife Lorna, son Jim (Chrissy), daughter
Jenny, granddaughter Kaylea, sisters Lorraine Hakala (Ken), Marjie Backen
(Eddy), Gloria Myllyaho (Ed), Karen Korpela (Donny) and Elaine Koski
(Donny), brother Gary Veal (Barbara), mother-in-law and father-in-law Gertie
and Jack Porter, dear friends Les and Debbie Fairall as well as by numerous
nieces, nephews and other relatives. He was predeceased by his father Lloyd
Veal and mother Audrey Veal. A gathering to celebrate Jim's life will be
held on Saturday, September 29th from 2 - 4 p.m. in the Sargent Family
Reception Centre, 35 N. Court Street. As expressions of sympathy memorials
to the Northern Cancer Research Foundation would be appreciated. On-line
condolences may be made at www.sargentandson.com -
Veal - It is with great sadness that the family of
Gary Ronald Veal announces his passing on Sunday, April 17, 2016, at the age
of 58 years. Gary passed away peacefully at home surrounded by his family.
Gary lived life to the fullest. He was very sociable and loved to share time
with his family and friends. He was a welder by trade, a great handyman, and
he enjoyed working on vehicles. He had a knack for carpentry and helped
build many family homes. Gary took great pride in knowing any job he tackled
was well done. Gary will be deeply missed and always remembered by his wife
Barb, son Matthew (Tiana), daughter Laura and his faithful companion,
Lightning. He is also survived by his sisters Lorraine (Ken) Hakala, Marjie
(Eddy) Backen, Gloria (Ed) Myllyaho, Karen (Donny) Korpela, and Elaine
(Donnie) Koski, as well as sisters-in-law Lorna Veal;, Debbi (John) Hill,
Victoria, B.C., and Elaine (Tom) Withnell, Edgerton, Alberta, and many
nieces, nephews and other relatives. Gary was predeceased by his parents
Lloyd and Audrey Veal, his brother Jim, and in-laws Warwick and Lilian
Harrison. A memorial service for Gary will be held on Saturday, April 23,
2016 at 11:00 a.m. in the chapel of Harbourview Funeral Centre presided by
Rev. Gordon Holroyd. A reception in the Harbourview Reception Centre will
follow. Interment will take place at a later date. Visitation for family and
friends will be held one hour prior to the service.
Velma “Vel” was b 1932 and at 14 left home for Winnipeg
where she married Dauphin-born Art Bowie when she was 15. Art initially worked
for one of the two Dauphin dairies and then went to Winnipeg, working first for
Canada Packers for a couple years before getting on with the CPR where he spent
the rest of his working career. The couple added two children - Cam (Allison)
and Corey (?) to the family circle and continued to live in Winnipeg after Art’s
VELMA JOSEPHINE BOWIE (nee VEAL) Peacefully on
Friday, July 11, 2014 Velma passed away surrounded by her loving family. She
will be laid to rest in Dauphin in a private family ceremony at a later
date. The family would like to thank the ICU staff of Concordia Hospital for
their care and compassion. Flowers are gratefully declined. Donations can be
made to the Lung Association 204-774-5501 or a charity of choice.
Don was born in Dauphin in 1938 and played serious
junior hockey while attending school. He spent two summers working for Manitoba
Telephone and at 16 left school early and migrated northwest ending up on the
surface crew, and later underground, at the United Keno Hill mine in the Yukon.
Later that year he found himself at Cassiar in the BC mountains, again in the
mining industry. Due to overabundant snowfall Cassiar was a seasonal operation
and closed for the winter so Don moved temporarily to Edmonton. When his cash
ran out during the winter of 1955 he sought relief from sister Vel who wired him
a ticket to get him back to Winnipeg. Needing to become employed again Don moved
a few hours northeast of Winnipeg into the gold mining camp of Red Lake, ON in
1955, and, except for a short few months in Winnipeg c1958 he lived in that
community his full adult life. On June 14, 1958 Don married Olive Boyko of
Madsen, ON and the couple had three children - Kirk (Valerie Morris/ Karen
Reiter), Karen (Pepi Pace), and Kimberly (Kurt Wood). Don died from pneumonia in
the Thunder Bay hospital in late February 2014, just a few days short of his
Veal - Posted on Monday, March 3, 2014 08:37 AM - In
loving memory of Donald James Veal who passed away at the
Thunder Bay Regional Health Science Centre at the age of 75. He
is survived by his loving wife Olive of 55 years, his son Kirk
Veal, daughters Karen (Peppi) Pace and Kim Veal-Wood (Kurt). He
is also survived by his sisters Evelyn Fleming and Velma Bowie
and grandchildren Burgundy Veal-Dick, Jasmin Veal, Jackson Veal,
Kyle Pace & Ryley Pace, and great grandchildren Deven Veal,
MacKenzie, Taylor and Ashton Dick, also by numerous nieces and
nephews. Celebration of Life will be held on Wednesday, March
5th at 11 am at the Red Lake Royal Canadian Legion officiated by
Reverend Terry McNear. A private family interment will follow in
the Red Lake Cemetery. If friends desire donations may be made
to the Tamarack House or English River Miners Junior Hockey
through Herold Funeral Home, Box 237, Red Lake, ON P0V 2M0.
Courtney Veal Jr, a CNR Engineer, died of cancer in
Dauphin in June of 1949. Josephine (Mather) Veal decided to follow her children
and left Dauphin c1954, first to Winnipeg, then to Toronto, both short stays, and
finally to Thunder Bay, ON where she worked for some years at Eaton’s. Josephine
died in Thunder Bay in 1978 at 76 years of age.
Refined: 20.07.15; augmented 06.08.16